sitting here in limbo

{photo by john}

Lily has asked me to stop blogging about her. The post I shared last week upset her greatly. She does not yet read but when she saw the photo she knew exactly what it was about.

Why is THAT on your blog, Mama? THAT is a private thing.

I tried to explain why I shared it and why it is so important to talk about difficult feelings because we all have them and we can learn from each other by talking about them.

I don’t care. I don’t want you writing about me any more. Everywhere I go everyone is like ‘Oh blah-blah-blah Lily…oh that’s so great…oh yeah I read about that on your mom’s blog.’

I don’t like it. It makes me feel embarrassed.

I had a bunch of posts ready to go for this week…Lily’s latest book, Quinn’s new sweater that he and I made together, photos of us all making Thanksgiving pies…and well for now at least I’m not going to share them.

Instead I’m going to sit. And breathe. And write in my journal. And reflect on what this space is all about and how I can use it in a way that feels right for me and my loved ones. 

As I am reflecting I would love to hear your thoughts.

Why do you visit here? What would you like to see more of here? What keeps you coming back? And for those of you who blog (especially those with older children) how do you find balance of sharing what is on your mind and in your heart without oversharing or embarrassing your children?

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  1. ||| laura frantz |||’s avatar

    I’ve been there. I had to scale waaay back on how much of my children’s inner lives I shared after a rather large pang of conscience hit me like a brick. It was during our unschooling experiment, when I was doing a lot of reading about respecting our children’s choices and personhood. What they say and do, and their image, all belong to them. I’m only teaching them and taking care of them for a little while. These days I will post a picture and sentence or two about how they are doing and where they are in life, but I am mindful of what I know of thir personailities and how much they are comfortable sharing.

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  2. Kathy’s avatar

    Although I don’t blog, I remember when you and Jill were younger, you both would get upset if I shared personal stories with family members and friends. I can’t imagine how upset you would have been had those stories been posted on-line. Selfishly, I enjoy reading your stories but I understand that you need to honor the needs and privacy of your family. I know you will work through this and find a way to use this space that feels right for you and your family and keeps your readers coming back!

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  3. Denise’s avatar

    I have deleted many many posts that i have written about my kids. Love that I can do that! Although, not many I know in real life know about my blog, I still try to keep my kids thoughts/feelings in mind. It was rather brave of Lily to express her feelings with you. You must be proud of her to be able to do that even though it maybe was not what you wanted to hear. I know you will find your words. Give it time.

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  4. tea Mama ~Jen’s avatar

    I don’t blog, BUT I know how much I look FORWARD to your posts!

    I would be soo sad not to see them any more.

    It’s hard to put into words (esp. when I’ve got a crawling babe on my lap) but your post & photos REALLY brighten my days!

    I was sad not to read some from this week.. I was getting worried and trying to find your ph # to call to see if you were ok.. I understand your need for reflection and space. Sending you much love & light to guide you into the right decision for you. xoxo

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  5. tea Mama ~Jen’s avatar

    ps: the photo is simply beautiful!

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  6. Hannah's Harvest’s avatar

    I bet you didn’t see that coming!

    I will share a story with you. Chloe has always been a free thinker. She does not like princesses as other girls do and has always dressed in her own way and is just her own “being” which we love. For Halloween last year she was a Halloween sprite and wore a beautiful red cape with a bat headband and beautiful face paint. A few days before Halloween we had a parade at her brother’s school so she wore her costume and the first person who saw her said “Are you little red riding hood?” and she froze. I told the person what she was and I could tell she had tensed up. Then some of the kids saw her and said “what are you?” and she said, “I don’t know” and my heart started to break. She kept answering the same way until finally she said, “Mom, I’m Little Red Riding Hood”. I wanted to scream at everyone how unfair it had been to make this child who had never question herself, start to question herself. We had a long talk about it, but in the end on Halloween she was Little Red Riding Hood and had ditched the bat headband and face paint, and simply carried a little basket. I was heart broken, she was happy that everyone knew what she was and she wasn’t at risk of feeling bad.

    She had just turned 6 when that happened and I was sure that her self confidence would be lost forever. Well, it wasn’t, but she really needed me to back off the lectures about being yourself and just let her be Little Red Riding Hood. This year for Halloween she was a bat with a scarf for wings and a baby bat on her headband and she was adorable. She was self confident and she was what she needed to be.

    They change so much every day as I am reminded when I look back at photos from just last year. When my heart was hurting so much for the girl who’s confidence I thought had been lost, I really thought she would never return. It was my lesson as much as hers.

    Perhaps this is a chance for you to put yourself out there more, as in this lovely photo. Us mamas love to see other children but we also need to see more of the mama’s life and thoughts and dreams and pictures.

    Much love to you.

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  7. katy’s avatar

    Sometimes I notice my younger son maybe notice a picture of him on facebook–I just shut the computer as quickly as I can, before he it sinks in that his private life is being traded publicly. Really, it’s their life. I use them to express who I am to people I barely know. I would have hated that as a kid.

    My sons have their own blog where they post photos of their stuffed animals with info about each one. So they, in turn, are exploiting their toys to express who they are and play around with writing. The stuffed animals aren’t complaining.

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  8. Ivy’s avatar

    She is a very smart girl to know her own mind and feelings so clearly, and you are a kind and considerate mama. You are both lucky to have each other.

    The main way I have gotten around these issues of privacy is to not reveal my children’s names — I use their initials instead and I use a pseudonym for myself. While I have a few pangs about not being completely forthcoming with my readers, I balance it out with the privacy it gives us all and the freedom that privacy gives me to say those things I really need or want to say. This, however, cannot be much help to you as your names are already known. I do hope you continue to write because I enjoy the calm this space provides.

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  9. Caroline Rose’s avatar

    As I don’t blog about parenting, I can’t fully speak to your experiences. I love what you have to say, though, and respect your desire to honor your children.

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  10. kyndale’s avatar

    Hi Erin, what a hard thing. I would respect your daughter. I write about my boys sometimes but they can’t read yet. My daughter who’s 11 is a little sensitive about giving her credit for things I put on my blog that she’s created. (of course! I would too) Have you thought about letting her start her own blog? Best wishes! xo Kyndale

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  11. Mousy Brown’s avatar

    I have only just started blogging but this is something I have thought about alot. It is so hard to be honest and true to yourself without mentioning these little people who are such a huge part of your life. At the moment I ask my boys (and my friends) if they are happy for me to put stuff in a post and only do it if they agree. Ultimately I think it has to be different for every family, mother and children and I am sure from what I have read of your blog, that together you will sort out a perfect balance for you. ‘Exhale, return to center’ and trust your own judgement I am sure you will find the answers within yourself! Good luck!

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  12. Rose’s avatar

    Please do not beat yourself up about this. It’s good that you and Lily have the kind of relationship where you can be honest with each other. She has stated her choices, and now you have to opportunity to respect them. I remember as a child, my mother talking about me as if I weren’t even in the room, and it used to embarrass the daylights out of me. Good for you for respecting her wishes.

    As far as my own blog goes, I try to write more about my own experience. I have written and deleted many a post because I felt that it was too personal to share. For me, my blog isn’t really about parenting per se, but more about my own personal journey as a mama. Hope you can find your voice again. I really like how you view the world.

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  13. Terri’s avatar

    How wonderful for her to know what she’s feeling and why! I did blog about my girls but only briefly. When I think of how permanent things on the Internet can be it freaks me out a little.

    I like the idea of involving Lily in the selection of topics you’ll write about. You could make her your little Editor In Chief!

    xoxoxo

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  14. Sarah’s avatar

    This is not a tough one in theory, but a tough one (for me) in practice.

    They’re separate people, with the right to tell their own life story. However, inasmuch as my life intersects with theirs, I have a right to tell *my* life story that will include pieces (or my interpretation of pieces) of theirs. Basically, I want to treat them as I treat my husband.

    I also always think of what Meryl Streep said when asked why she hardly ever talks about her children. She said something along the lines of “I don’t want to use my children to make myself interesting.” (can’t find the exact quote right now)

    In reality, it’s very different. As a homeschooling mom of three little ones with no outside job … well, these kids *are* my life right now. Sure, I’m doing my sewing and farming and gardening and I’m taking some college classes, but right now, my life is raising three little humans, so those humans make it into my blog. I always talk to my older child about what I post, and I’ve started talking to my middle girl about posts about her also. I fully expect my middle child to shut me down in a few years, if not sooner, but my older child loves it and even suggests things for me to post. She obviously doesn’t understand the ‘bigness’ of an internet audience, but I’ll keep her in the loop.

    If I do talk about hard times with them, it’s never, EVER from a “those little monsters” viewpoint, humorously written or not. It’s always about my inner work with frustration and limits and parenting.

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  15. Hillary’s avatar

    Wow, that is powerful Erin.

    It sounds really empowering in the way that you were doing what you needed to do to grow and find center as a mother and now your amazing daughter has shared a new need with you.

    That’s okay! Maybe from now on you can give a break from Lily stories and then ask, “I would like to share this on the blog. Would that be okay?” Maybe she’s just asking for some input. Or maybe she’s never going to want to be included. That’s okay.

    I think it’s okay what’s already been done and by you simply responding to the now is being the respectful parent that you are. Maybe talk to Quinn and see how he feels. Maybe he doesn’t mind. I know right now Sol feels like a rock star when he knows I blogged about him and I know that might change too.

    I’ve learned I need to check in with Stone about pics and stories I tell about him.

    In all honesty, I don’t see your blog changing because a blog is always evolving and reflecting your present moment. In your present moment Lilly is asking you to consider her needs. I can see you sharing important parenting lessons without the details of her specific participation. I can see you continuing to blog about your personal journey, your community and your focus on healthy spirit and local foods.

    Good luck! This feels really empowering to me :-)

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  16. nicola@which name?’s avatar

    oh, erin. i am sending a huge virtual mamma hug your way. how upsetting for both lily and you, for different reasons.

    perhaps my daughter is reaching this age soon, although not quite. honestly, i had thought about it, although not entirely from her perspective. i, like many bloggers, post in cycles on what is relevant in my life. i only post bits and pieces, but i post honestly, both positively and negatively, and recently, a lot of those posts have been about my kids and my struggles. it is a huge outlet for me, gets others sharing, which i find helpful, documents it for myself, and feels truthful and real. while it occurred to me to be careful about how i portray my daughter (some of my readers DO know her in real life), it hadn’t occurred to me that she might be old enough to care or be embarrassed.

    how mature of lily to recognize and what a huge honor it is to your relationship with her that she feels comfortable communicating it with you.

    i suppose i am rather new to reading your blog, but it has quickly become one of my favorites because of how real what you share is. your mothering is such an integral part of you, your life, and one of the bits of your blog i so appreciate.

    perhaps try and talk with lily about which parts you share that she prefers remain private. explain what a huge part of your life she and quinn are and that you are proud of her and want to share part of that on your blog, then get permission from her about what can be shared. projects you have worked on? her school? maybe sharing how she resolves her own struggles is too private for her, but there are other things she might be proud to share with your blog world.

    huge hugs, again.
    nicola
    http://whichname.blogspot.com

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  17. Abby @ New Urban Habitat’s avatar

    I’ve really struggled with this question of how much we should share about our kids on blogs, especially after reading this Newsweek commentary awhile ago: http://www.newsweek.com/id/215300.

    My dad is a newspaper columnist and he wrote about my sister and me occasionally when we were young. He always seemed to strike the perfect balance between sharing interesting stories about us, but ones that weren’t too revealing. I hope I’m striking that balance in what I share about my son as well. But he’s still very young, and it’s so hard to know! I wish you the best as you reflect.

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  18. Stacy (Mama-Om)’s avatar

    Hi Erin,
    I think one thing that is a bit different for us from your situation is that I have tried to keep my blog relatively private from people I know. I never quite understood why I had that inclination, but I do feel uncomfortable when people say, “Oh, yeah, I read that on your blog!” I’m thankful that the readers who I know in real life don’t often bring up my blog in person, especially in front of the kids.

    That said, I’ve always had this issue in the back of my mind/heart, since I’ve heard from other writers who’ve gone through this transition. I remember the author of Birdy and Ben became less inclined to write about her children as they got older, and there was a piece in Brain, Child a while back by another writer about the same issue of respecting our children’s privacy (and having to find new “material”).

    I’ve tried to find a balance by writing from my own perspective and to not write things that seem disrespectful of my kids’ point of view or experience. That said, I do have a category on my blog specifically about the things my kids say and I do write about conversations we have or the things they do. Like you, I share them in the spirit of joy and/or learning. But, even if it is all positive or for positive reasons, I cannot escape that my kids really are the final arbiters of whether or not to share their stories. I’ve built my parenting around respecting their autonomy — am I being hypocritical by publishing their stories? Another thing I can’t quite get my head around is why there seems to be an age at which things shift. If it seems inappropriate to write about them at age six or eight, why not at three?

    My sons are six and three, and they both know that I am a writer. My oldest son knows I have a blog and understands that I blog about our life (my husband and even my kids will say, “you should put that on the blog!”)… your post is inspiring me to explore my thoughts on this issue further, and to talk to my older son about it.

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  19. renee @ FIMBY’s avatar

    Erin,

    Your post sent me straight to me my kiddos at the breakfast table this morning. What do you guys think about me blogging about you? Does it bother you? Their answer was a resounding no, “we love it” was more like it. Perhaps they’re just exhibitionists (smile). I’m not sure why they don’t mind but I write only positive things about them, just as I would never disparage my husband on my blog either – not like you’ve done that though.

    Celine reads almost every post of mine and she enjoys doing so. But no one we know comes up to her and says “oh, I read that on your mom’s blog”. That might make her feel awkward. I too am slightly embarrassed when people I know mention my blog. I think, “oh, you read that??” Theoretically I know anybody can read my blog and I only post what I am comfortable with anyone and anybody reading, I’m a fairly open person. But writing is also a private activity, it’s a blogging tension I live with.

    As to your other questions. I visit your blog because I like the way you share about mothering, it’s ups/down and heart growing realities. I love the homey-ness of your space here, the photos you share of the light in your home.

    I don’t live near you so don’t attend your classes or anything. I just like the day-to-day but that’s the kind of gal I am.

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  20. kate’s avatar

    Oh E, I understand completely. I write very little about Noah now– no more “personal” stuff, because when he turned 10 it felt like the stories I had to share about him were no longer *mine* to share. When I do want to share something that is more “him” now, I ask first, and when I’ve written what I’m going to post, I let him read it. Sometimes (like when his best friend moved to Alaska) he says “yes, please. That is just how I feel and maybe some other kid’s mom will read it and it will help them if they are going through the same thing.” Other times, it is a simple “no. I don’t think I want that up for the world to see.” Either way, I don’t act like it is a big deal– simply thank him for allowing me to share in his journey…because in the end, that is what matters. Every child is different, and Lily did a beautiful thing by telling you exactly how she felt– and you did an even more beautiful thing by respecting her and taking some time to think about all of this. I come to this space to read about your mothering journey– but also to simply read the thoughts and growths of a person who is making her way through this world. Perhaps when something comes up that includes mention of Lily that you would like to write, simply read it to her first– she may feel empowered and you two may continue to grow your relationship because of that connection…I know Noah and I have… Take a week. Continue to take those breaths. You are one in-tune mama, Erin, and you’ll navigate back. Trust your feelings, and tell your truths. Hugs!

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  21. steadymom’s avatar

    I would feel troubled as well if one of my three expressed similar feelings to your Lily.

    I think about this from time to time as well. It is a delicate balance. In my case, I feel the need to be an advocate for moms, and an advocate for adoption. One of the most powerful ways of doing so is by being REAL. And real can be messy.

    My three do seem to enjoy my blogging and love when they see a photo of themselves, but it’s a question I come back to and ask again and again.

    I’m sure you’ll find your answer. I love reading your thoughts– maybe Lily could write her own posts?! From what you’ve shared she has a lot of depth to give to others….

    Jamie

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  22. Tara @ TheOrganicSister’s avatar

    Erin, Zeb is 10 and asked me about 6 months go to not blog about him. Anything I do put on the blog related to our experiences is run by him first. Generally speaking if he thinks it will help other families, he’s okay with it. But certainly nothing that might embarass him.

    I realize now I’ve never really mentioned that on my blog. I think I will now, just to get it out there.

    I think it’s really important to respect our children. If something comes up that you really want to share, perhaps she’ll be okay with it or perhaps you can find a different way of approaching it in your writing.

    It’s not always easy and many times it’s meant not blogging certain things that I really wanted to share or find support on, etc. But his privacy is important to him, and thus to me.

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  23. Alisha’s avatar

    i read because i enjoy your honesty and truth. . . while my children are still pretty young, i don’t blog much about my husband. he likes his privacy and i respect that. i would like to think though that, even though as a stay-at-home mom my children basically are my life, i don’t think i would write much about them. i wouldn’t want to divulge their private life, just like i don’t divulge much of my husband’s.

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  24. lily boot’s avatar

    I would have felt awful if Abby had said this – you poor thing Erin. It is an interesting issue.

    One of my favourite newspaper columnists – Susan Hacking – here in Brisbane spent 15 or so years writing about being a woman, motherhood and her children. As weekly readers of the largest newspaper in the state, we all read about her daughters, their quirkiness, daily life and special events. I vividly remember Susan writing about her youngest daughter’s last day of high school, ironing the uniform and making it to the last day of school with the hat band intact. I really felt that we had come to an end of an era, and soon after – it could have been a couple of months, or a couple of years, I don’t remember – Susan ceased writing her column. I’m not suggesting this change was because her children were now grown up, but certainly, her daughters – and in a wider world – the life of “daughters” and where they are positioned in our community, how they are treated and valued etc. – were the themes of her column and for me, what made it wonderful reading.

    Abby is relaxed about my blog and posts I write that include her – parenting is not the main focus of my blog, but she is the main focus of my life and recipieint of almost everything I do, so it’s inevitable she would appear. She reads it sometimes, not often, and I do ask her about sensitive things before writing. If she was not happy, I would not write about it. But that would make me sad, because she is such a huge part of my life.

    Oh dear, what a conundrum. If we are writing about ourselves, it is inevitable that a little bit of our little ones creeps into our accounts or it simply wouldn’t be the real picture. Hmmm, I agree with previous comments – it is important to respect Lily’s feelings, but I wouldn’t see it as a permanent thing. Let it go for a while, and focus on the lovely you :-) and then when Lily does something lovely, ask her if you could share some of this on your blog, because you are really touched by it.

    I love your blog Erin, and really enjoy that which you share – I’m a great believer in sharing – it makes our world a richer and more compassionate place. :-)

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  25. Meg’s avatar

    I agree with a lot of others that i think it’s great she was in tune with her feelings and honest and could EXPRESS them.

    I come to your blog because i have kids the same age and i think we see the world in similar ways and i am always looking for ways to improve my parenting, open my mind to new insights, and learn from other mamas cause let’s face it, few of us are surrounded in person by waldorf-minded, homeschooling parents. The web has made it possible for like-minded folks to connect when they feel they are on their own or feeling isolated. I have gained inspiration from your blog and may revamp my own soon to be more personal. I shied away from revealing personal stuff, but you know what, i think that’s what people seek. We are all drawn to stories. And what better story than a window into someone’s life who is struggling just like us and learning just like us. Hope this all makes sense. I will say, i tend to follow fewer blogs that have teeny, close-up shots of something with no real detail which leaves one wondering what the picture is. It creates distance and does not draw me back. But that’s just me. I hope you find whatever direction your heart and family is calling you to.

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  26. Samantha’s avatar

    Erin,

    It seems as though you have many thoughtful, inspired comments here–and I apologize if I don’t offer anything new.

    The blog that I create was set up as a gift to the boys–something they could look back on and read and enjoy. So, when I write, it is with that intention. That being said, I am sure I have written posts or parts of posts that they will question later. I am okay with that–as a writer and a mother. When we put our writing out there, we subject it to questioning, criticism.

    Of course, these are our children–and we would not do anything willingly to hurt or offend them. Oscar is becoming aware that I write a blog–he sees it on the screen, including the photos. Most times these days, though, to get a photo of Oscar and/or Edgar, I have to ask. Unless they aren’t aware of my photographing them, they are fast requiring permission. No problem there–I feel the same way. So, they have a sense that when I photograph them it appears somewhere later on the computer.

    Lily is entitled to her feelings, her opinions–and you are entitled to create. Knowing you, you will find the middle ground, a path that makes sense for both of you.

    Wishing you well as you contemplate this . . .

    Samantha

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  27. Kelli’s avatar

    I love the truth of this blog. I love that it feels like I can come here and read what is on my own heart… my own struggles, hopes, and goals.

    My girls are small, and there isn’t alot of serious stuff going on with them right now. When they are older, I plan to talk to them before posting something. I won’t share private thoughts especially of a sensitive nature. I blog mainly to share my personal struggles, hopes, and goals, talk about homesteading, yoga, and homeschooling. I try to keep it about me and other than that the bigger picture.

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  28. Kylie’s avatar

    Erin,
    I have come to this story late and have read all of the comments and see a lot of insight and compassion for your situation. I don’t know that I can add much to the beauty and wisdom already shared, but I wanted to let you know that I too am thinking of you.
    I see in your next post that you are really taking this seriously and respecting Lily’s wishes. She is a lucky girl, both to have a Mother who respects her desires (I know it should be the norm, but isn’t always the case). And Lily is also luck to have been mothered by you and therefore is strong and certain enough of herself to articulate how she feels about such a big subject at such a tender age.
    I have been absent for your blog for a little while, but the story you shared that upset Lily was the last I read and has come back to me time after time in the days since I read it. I was just blown away by her maturity and understanding of her own needs. I am sure I am still not so in touch with myself. To know that she needed to calm and center herself and to be able to express that she knew how to do that and that’s what she was doing. Sure other kids may retreat to an activity that they desire in a similar situation, but I don’t know any who could articulate why they were doing it. Or many Mothers who would ask why they were doing that instead of just hitting the roof and increasing the tension for the child.
    I guess some of the reasons I return here to your blog have been clarified for me by writing this comment. I am inspired by the way you mother, humbled to hear you, a mother I admire so much, still second guesses yourself and your skills and is always growing and learning. I love the sense of calm and respect that emanate from this space.
    I must admit, I have noticed how private some of the moments you share are and I enjoy being included in these snippets, but shy away myself from including my Little Guy as much in my blog. That said my blog is more about my creativity and I am only new to blogging and am still finding my way. I don’t use his name in my blog or in any linked comments and never use identifying photos of him. I was often embarrassed by stories my Mother would share with friends and family as I was growing up and am super sensitive to try to avoid making Little Guy fell that way I did.
    I am still not at a place with my Mother where I could be as upfront and honest with her as Lily was with you (this kid has seriously got it all over me in the maturity and getting it together stakes!) I am sure that because you have instilled such great skills and awareness in her and you can both talk honestly and openly you two will get through this and you will both be stronger and wiser for the experience. I am sorry to hear won’t be sharing as much of Lily’s journey as I really loved reading about what and amazing girl she is.
    I look forward to seeing what direction you take your blog in and am confident that it will still be a place of peace and learning that I and many other enjoy returning to time and time again.
    I hope you are finding a soft place in your belly about this.
    Kylie

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